Steve Youngs <steve@xxxxxxxx> writes:
> * Zajcev Evgeny <lg@xxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> > Steve Youngs <steve@xxxxxxxx> writes:
> >> * Zajcev Evgeny <lg@xxxxxxxx> writes:
> >>
> >> > Steve Youngs <steve@xxxxxxxx> writes:
> >> >> ,----
> >> >> | (eval-when-compile
> >> >> | (autoload 'url-retrieve "url"))
> >> >> `----
> >> >>
> >> >> I _strongly_ object to this.
>
> [...]
>
> > I'm having couple of reasons to use proxying:
>
> > 1) In case there no other methods to access web. In Russia this
> > method of controlling user's usage of the web resources is widely
> > spreaded. You are closed by proxy with authentification - and
> > admin always can see what you are doing in the web ..
>
> Holy crap! Talk about your anal-retentive admin! I can hardly grok
> this level of paranoia. Do the admins in Russia really have their
> heads shoved _that_ far up their arses?
The main problem is 'khalyava' syndrome .. for average russian if it
is possible to download anything for free he will download whole
internet, boss will overpay for the internet traffic than will ask
admin, "why we are having so many traffic this month?". Admin will
answer: "I dont know sir". Boss will say: "So why i'm paying you
money and you are answering `dont know', start searching for new job
right now!". But if admin has proxy, he will answer "Wait a minute
sir, ah .. that is Peter Ivanov, he downloaded
http://www.ru/archive/whole_internet.zip yesterday. May i watch how
you will fuck him up, sir?"
>
> > 2) Connection to proxy does not block, i.e. local connection goes
> > without blocking for SXEmacs proccess (proxy blocks waiting for
> > connection), so you can continue working in the SXEmacs while
> > doing connection to remote site. On slow and unstable
> > connections this becames determinative reason ..
>
> OK, this is a reason I like and it doesn't make me gag or roll around
> in fits of laughter like your #1. :-)
>
> Alright, I'm now happy for xwem-weather to optionally retrieve weather
> data via proxy. But I wish to go on record that I'm _really_ unhappy
> about making people install all of ancient W3 package just to be able
> to retrieve a 380 byte file. I will, however, quit bitching about
> it... at least until I (or somebody else) writes xwem-proxy.el. :-P
>
Yeah, i agree better place for url.el is in xemacs-base or net-utils
packages ..
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